Futurama Wiki:Antagonist fussing policy/examples

The following are actual examples of antagonist fussing that have occurred on different wikis for various characters. Most of these are for the same character, Randall Boggs of the Monsters, Inc. and Monsters University movies. Grand total, there are 161 different ways to describe what kind of antagonist Randall is, with 16 different categories.

Approximately a dozen other descriptions from other characters have been added at the bottom to show the extent people will go to in antagonist fussing.

Notations of "another character" mean that character's name was left out.

Fairly-definitive antagonist levels

a character
neutral character
supporting character
an antagonist
main antagonist
major antagonist
central antagonist
primary antagonist
secondary antagonist
secondary protagonist
deuteragonist
tritagonist
tertiary antagonist
tertiary protagonist
minor antagonist
supporting antagonist
supporting anti-hero
protagonist-turned-antagonist
main villain
minor villain
supporting villain
anti-hero

Sharing being an antagonist

one of the major antagonists
one of the 2 main antagonists
one of the two main antagonists
one of the two primary antagonists
one of the secondary antagonists
one of the tertiary antagonists
secondary antagonist behind another character
direct main antagonist "infront" of him stands/right next to him stands another character
direct secondary antagonist behind/"infront" of him stands another character **
main antagonist along with/alongside/"infront" of/in front of him stands/above him/next to him stands/right next to him stands/below him another character **
one of the 2 main antagonists alongside/along with/"infront" of/in front of him stands/right next to him stands/above him/below him another character **
one of the two main antagonists alongside/along with/"infront" of/in front of him stands/right next to him stands/above him/below him another character **
primary antagonist "infront" of him stands another character
both equally main antagonists

** = The variations were combined into one line.

Made-up words

"deughteragonist" — (likely a misspelling of "deuteragonist")
quadragonist — (used to mean "there are four antagonists" and "this is a fourth-level antagonist below the other three levels" and there is no consistency as to which meaning is used)
teratagonist — (same as for "quadragonist")

Built-in doubt

On the following, by putting words in parentheses, the editor is saying "I don't really know if they were an antagonist, so I'm making a guess that they used to be one", and by putting in "probably" and "maybe" in front of them, they are confirming that they really don't know.

minor/secondary antagonist — (minor and secondary are redundant in this case, but given that people have been fussing over "minor antagonists" versus "secondary antagonists" and that the usage of "minor" has indicated "less than secondary", only one should have been used)
probably formerly secondary antagonist
probably (the former) secondary antagonist
probably-former secondary antagonist
probably-former secondary antagonist and the one who hides another character's villainous side
(former) main, but semi, antagonist
(former) fourth, but semi, antagonist
(former) secondary antagonist
(maybe-former) secondary antagonist
(maybe-former) secondary antagonist "infront" of him stands another character **
(probably-former) main antagonist alongside him being/infront of him stands another character **
(probably-former) secondary antagonist
(probably-former) secondary antagonist "infront" of him stands another character **
(probably-former) secondary antagonist who probably turned into the secondary tritagonist — (contains two instances of doubt: whether the character used to be a secondary antagonist and he might have become a secondary tritagonist)

** = The variations were combined into one line.

"You're wrong for thinking that" phrases

The following phrases are intended to convince you that if you think the character is a different kind of antagonist than they do, you're wrong.

constantly thought to be
rumored to be
often thought to be
often believe to be
often mistaken as
many times mistaken to be
this was a misinformation campaign to hide the true main villain
introduced as the main antagonist, but this was a misinformation campaign to hide the true main villain
the second secondary antagonist of a Pixar film to be believed to be the main villain, while instead, the role as the main villain went to (list of the other characters omitted)
often believed to be the deuteragonist-turned-secondary, tertiary, and a minor antagonist **
constantly believed to be the deuteragonist (and tritagonist)-turned-secondary antagonist, the tertiary antagonist, and a minor antagonist **
rumored to be he first film's (probably former) secondary antagonist and henchman ***

** = In the first six cases in this section, only a single antagonist level was listed after each item. These examples are trying to rule out multiple antagonist levels at the same time.

*** = This entry combines a "you're wrong for thinking that" statement with doubt as to whether or not the character was a secondary antagonist.

Contradictory descriptions

The following phrases contradict themselves.

co and main antagonist
The character shared being an antagonist with another character but was also the main antagonist at the same time, which means he is not really sharing being an antagonist because he is more of an antagonist than another character.
major main antagonist
The character is a main antagonist, yet more of an antagonist.
secondary main antagonist
The character is a main antagonist, yet less of an antagonist.
secondary but titular antagonist
This was used to describe Randall Boggs in Monsters, Inc. "Titular" means "from who or which a title or name is taken". Randall's name is not in the title of that movie, so he cannot be a "titular antagonist".
turning from the secondary deughteragonist to the tertiary, truely secondary antagonist
The character becomes a tertiary antagonist, but in reality, he's a truely secondary antagonist?
the big bad secondary antagonist (formely the main antagonist)
By adding "the big bad" in front of secondary antagonist, this makes brings the level of the character back up to being a main antagonist.
deuteragonist-turned-main/secondary antagonist
The character is a main antagonist and a secondary antagonist at the same time? Or does this mean that the user doesn't know which one the character is so they decided to put in both?
secondary antagonist-turned-tertiary tritagonist
This is a contradictory description, for two reasons:

A) If "tritagonist" means third-level antagonist, then by putting "tertiary" in front of it, you are saying "this guy is a third-level antagonist amongst all the other third-level antagonists". In other words, "this guy is actually a ninth-level antagonist because he's two steps below the other third-level antagonists".

B) If "tritagonist" means there are three antagonists, then does it mean they all equal in how much of an antagonist they are? If so, then "tertiary" means they aren't equal any more. But if they're not all equal, then "tertiary antagonist" is a clearer description than "tertiary tritagonist".

Additional information on point A: Putting "tertiary" in front of "tritagonist" then means there are "primary tritagonists" and "secondary tritagonists" to go along with this "tertiary tritagonist". If you're going to use that, then you should also use those same prefixes when talking about deuteragonists ("primary deuteragonist", "secondary deuteragonist" and "tertiary deuteragonist").

This makes the descriptions even more overly-complicated, because then you have to decide if a "secondary deuteragonist" is more of an antagonist than a "primary tritagonist". The first is "less than a second-level antagonist", which would just be "tritagonist". So is a "primary tritagonist" more of an antagonist than a "secondary antagonist", is it equal, or is it less of an antagonist?

Overly-complicated descriptions

major protagonist turned main antagonist
major protagonist-turned-supporting antagonist
major protagonist turned supporting antagonist **
major antagonist turned secondary antagonist
major antagonist turned supporting antagonist
main, later secondary antagonist
main antagonist, but is later the secondary antagonist
main, truely secondary antagonist, the one above him another character
main antagonist (later the secondary antagonist) — (the qualifier in parentheses is a part of this description)
deuteragonist-turned-main antagonist
deuteragonist-turned-minor antagonist
deuteragonist-turned-secondary villain
deuteragonist-turned-secondary antagonist
deuteragonist-turned-supporting antagonist
deuteragonist-turned-supportive antagonist
deuteragonist-turned-tertiary antagonist
deuteragonist turned to an antagonist character
deughteragonist, but later the secondary antagonist
deughteragonist-turned-secondary antagonist
deuteragonist, later main antagonist
deuteragonist, later secondary antagonist
tritagonist-turned-antagonist
tritagonist-turned-main antagonist
tritagonist-turned-secondary antagonist
tritagonist turned secondary antagonist **
tritagonist-turned-tertiary antagonist
tritagonist-turned-supporting antagonist
tritagonist turned supporting antagonist **
tritagonist-turned-true antagonist
tritagonist, later supporting antagonist
tritagonist turned supporting villain
protagonist-turned-antagonist
protagonist-turned-minor antagonist
protagonist-turned-secondary antagonist
former protagonist-turned-antagonist
former protagonist-turned-supporting antagonist
former protagonist turned supporting antagonist **
formerly the secondary antagonist
formerly the tertiary antagonist
secondary antagonist (formerly main antagonist) — (the qualifier in parentheses is a part of this description)
secondary antagonist (main antagonist at first) — (the qualifier in parentheses is a part of this description)
secondary antagonist behind another character
secondary antagonist in front of another character
character-turned-supportive antagonist
supporting anti-hero-turned secondary antagonist
supporting character-turned-antagonist
supporting character-turned-main antagonist
supporting character-turned-minor antagonist
supporting character-turned-secondary antagonist
supporting character-turned-tertiary antagonist
supporting character turned tertiary antagonist **
supporting protagonist-turned-antagonist
supporting protagonist-turned-main antagonist
supporting protagonist-turned minor antagonist
supporting protagonist-turned-secondary antagonist
supporting protagonist turned secondary antagonist **
supporting protagonist-turned-tertiary antagonist
started [as the] secondary antagonist but became deughteragonist

** = the hyphens were not used in this instance

Implications

The phrases used have an unintended implication that there are similar antagonists.

fought to be the primary villain — (this implies some kind of takeover or competition in the hierarchy of the villains and antagonists in the movie, which did not occur in that movie)
direct rival and nemesis — (this implies that there are also an indirect rival and nemesis)
direct main antagonist — (again, this implies that there is an indirect main antagonist)
direct secondary antagonist — (implies that there is an indirect secondary antagonist)
direct, but true antagonist — (another implication that there are indirect antagonists and there are false antagonists)
direct secondary, but true antagonist — (another implication that there are indirect secondary antagonists and there are false antagonists)
true deuteragonist — (implies that there are false deuteratonists)
true main antagonists — (implies that there are false main antagonists)
true secondary antagonists — (implies that there are false secondary antagonists)
major protagonists-turned supporting antagonist — (implies that there are minor protagonists that become supporting antagonists)
supporting character-turned-true antagonist — (implies that there are false antagonists)
semi, later true main antagonist — (combines doubt as to whether or not the character was an antagonist, or could have been partially an antagonist but not a full antagonist, with the implication that there are false main antagonists)

Descriptions from other characters

primary antagonist-turned-antiheroic supporting character
main, but semi, antagonist — main antagonist but yet somewhat of an antagonist
main, later secondary antagonist and later anti-hero
secondary antagonist-turned-antiheroic character
antiheroic protagonist
hidden secondary, later true main antagonist
funnytagonist — apparently, this is an antagonist who is funny and they had to make up a word instead of just saying "funny antagonist"
hidden duel main antagonist — ("duel" is a typo since it appears the user was trying to say that two antagonists worked together in secret, "dual antagonists")
main implicit antagonist — ("implicit" means it isn't specifically stated, which means the movie isn't doing a good job of showing who the main antagoinst is)
pseudo character and tritagonist — (contains doubt at to whether the character actually is a character or not)
pseudo character and minor antagonist — (contains doubt at to whether the character actually is a character or not)
the quaternary antagonists, but this was outranked by character, the true quaternary villain — (this is a combination of saying that one character is more of a fourth-level antagonist than a group of antagonists was, along with a "you're wrong for thinking that" statement because they identify who the "true" villain is)
quinary antagonists — (was used to refer to a group of five antagonists)
final general main villain — (implies that through the course of the movie, it wasn't decided who would be the main villain, and yet, they are also supposed to be an all-purpose villain rather than a main villain)